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Post by Matt of the Vivas on Aug 6, 2017 20:19:50 GMT
My daily transport for the last 2 1/2 years and 24,000 miles:  Not old enough to be classic, not young enough to be worth anything, it was £625 with a full Skoda service history and 2 owners from new. Its just clicked over to 100,000 miles, and drives like a new car. Its taken me all over the country, to Beaulieu 4 times, on holiday twice, ive loaded it up with engines, abused it, towed with it.... Apart from a new clutch (easy to fit) its needed nothing beyond servicing and a new radiator. Even the air con works. We Buy Any Car value it at £99 so i reckon ill keep hold of it! Simple VW mechanicals mean it should be easy to keep running, and its very well galvanised so its happy living outside.... |
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Post by Father Ted on Aug 6, 2017 21:41:27 GMT
Simple VW mechanicals? I have a 2006 Mk2 which has been off the road for over 7 weeks because the VW specialists cannot find out what is wrong with it. It has only done 71,000 miles and will probably be scrapped because they cannot work out why a fault light keeps coming on.
Simple, my ar5e!
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Post by Matt of the Vivas on Aug 6, 2017 23:01:26 GMT
Simple VW mechanicals? I have a 2006 Mk2 which has been off the road for over 7 weeks because the VW specialists cannot find out what is wrong with it. It has only done 71,000 miles and will probably be scrapped because they cannot work out why a fault light keeps coming on. Simple, my ar5e! This ones an 8v 1600 petrol. Its simple.... whats the issue with yours? Ill look into it if i can help? |
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Post by Father Ted on Aug 8, 2017 10:00:29 GMT
Simple VW mechanicals? I have a 2006 Mk2 which has been off the road for over 7 weeks because the VW specialists cannot find out what is wrong with it. It has only done 71,000 miles and will probably be scrapped because they cannot work out why a fault light keeps coming on. Simple, my ar5e! This ones an 8v 1600 petrol. Its simple.... whats the issue with yours? Ill look into it if i can help? Long story...
About 2 months ago when I was driving fairly slowly in traffic the engine just died. No noises, no warning lights beforehand, it just stopped. Fortunately I was able to coast to the side of the road. Engine turned over but would not start so I called RAC who very quickly diagnosed that the front (inlet) camshaft was not turning.
This came as a surprise to me as I thought it was a single cam 8v engine. It is a 2.0 fsi and when I bought it new the January 2006 brochure (which I still have) shows that the 1.6 & 2.0 engines are 8v. The 2007 brochure lists them as 16v. My car was built in Feb 2006 so must be one of the first 16v twin cam engines in these cars - or the 2006 brochure was just wrong!
Anyway, the car was taken to our local VAG specialists who quickly found that the chain which connects the two camshafts was broken and the tensioner was mangled but it was not possible to tell which had happened first. Various other bits had to be replaced including 2 valves which had hit pistons and got bent. Pistons were OK though. Total cost was about the same as the value of the car, probably more, but I thought it was worth it because the car is otherwise immaculate, full VAG service history, low mileage and is the luxury "Laurin & Klement" version so has all the toys.
When the car was all back together they tested it and the computer said no. There was still a problem. Further investigation showed that the rear (exhaust) camshaft was coming apart - as you probably know they are not all one casting like a good old Ford or Triumph! The gap was so small I can forgive them for not noticing at first. Anyway this camshaft was replaced (£340 for the part!) but the computer still says no. Car runs fine, sounds really smooth but as soon as the revs go over 3,000 rpm a warning light comes on.
Latest  is to change the other camshaft which I think they are doing now. They are not charging me for all the additional labour which is good of them, but it was them that advised me that it was worth repairing the car. However all the extra parts mean that the final bill - if they ever fix it - will be far more than the car is worth.
As you can imagine I am seriously pi**ed off about this. 
As for the Zodiac... ... 
*Update on 9th August: The new inlet camshaft made no difference. Latest is to replace the ECU. I did ask how a camshaft fault could cause the ECU to fail and give spurious faults and they said they didn't know, but couldn't think of anything else!
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Post by Matt of the Vivas on Aug 10, 2017 17:24:14 GMT
What warning light comes on, and what codes are generated when it does come on?
I cant see it being an ECU fault!
It does sound like a cam phasing error, Im assuming its timed up right?
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Post by Father Ted on Aug 10, 2017 17:40:51 GMT
What warning light comes on, and what codes are generated when it does come on? I cant see it being an ECU fault! It does sound like a cam phasing error, Im assuming its timed up right? I don't know what the code is but they say it is a cam error, although they must have checked and re-checked the timing 10 times and are sure it is correct.
I don't think they think it is an ECU fault either, they are just clutching at straws.
They have had it for 8 weeks today. 
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Post by Matt of the Vivas on Aug 10, 2017 19:48:37 GMT
Can you find out exactly what code it is?
We subscribe to a very good tech service, i'll throw it at them and see what they come up with..
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Post by Father Ted on Aug 11, 2017 15:53:19 GMT
Can you find out exactly what code it is? We subscribe to a very good tech service, i'll throw it at them and see what they come up with.. I'll ask but they are VAG specialists with access to the VAG database so I would hope they have diagnosed the fault from the code correctly. |
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Post by Father Ted on Aug 16, 2017 11:28:16 GMT
Here is the fault code:
000010 - Camshaft Positioner (Bank 1 Intake)
P000A - 008 - Slow Response
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
They have changed both camshafts, the chain that connects them, the tensioner and all the other bits that connect to the camshaft.
Tried a new ECU but that made no difference.
The owner of the business who is VW trained and has been working on VWs over 20 years has been working on this for days now!
Good news is that they are sticking to their original estimate so they are now losing a lot of money on my car. |
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Post by Matt of the Vivas on Aug 16, 2017 21:15:32 GMT
The most immediate thing that comes to mind is have they changed the camshaft sensor? Thats what that code relates to....
On an FSI engine its right at the top on the intake cam, and easily damaged, especially if its been apart recently.
If thats ok id be looking at the wiring to it. Its not a mechanical fault, that code means the cam sensor signal is dropping out which is causing the injection to run as batch fired, hence the light on the dash....
If they have looked at the sensor let me know and i'll speak to tech support...
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Post by Matt of the Vivas on Aug 16, 2017 21:23:24 GMT
Having thought about it, we have also had issues with the solenoid that controls the cam timing. Its called an N205 valve - they are a fairly common failure. Have they looked at this?
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Post by bent8rover on Aug 17, 2017 10:16:41 GMT
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Post by Father Ted on Aug 17, 2017 22:01:20 GMT
Thanks for your suggestions.
Yes, they have fitted a new camshaft sensor, and checked the wiring more than once. Not sure about N205 valve, I will ask.
When I spoke to them yesterday they were considering whether it is an oil pressure problem, as the light does not come on immediately, only after the oil has warmed up. They were wondering if an oilway is partially blocked by a tiny piece of debris from when the chain connecting the camshafts broke. They did find bits of metal in the cylinder head an tiny fragments in the sump.
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Post by Father Ted on Aug 18, 2017 16:41:14 GMT
Thanks for your suggestions. Yes, they have fitted a new camshaft sensor, and checked the wiring more than once. Not sure about N205 valve, I will ask. When I spoke to them yesterday they were considering whether it is an oil pressure problem, as the light does not come on immediately, only after the oil has warmed up. They were wondering if an oilway is partially blocked by a tiny piece of debris from when the chain connecting the camshafts broke. They did find bits of metal in the cylinder head an tiny fragments in the sump. And yes, they have replaced the N205 valve. |
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Post by Father Ted on Sept 12, 2017 20:02:11 GMT
After spending 13 weeks in the workshop, the Octavia was released to me last Thursday.
The problem was that the NEW camshaft sensor was faulty.
The garage were amazing, stuck to their original estimate and didn't charge for the new parts that had been fitted unnecessarily in an attempt to fix it.
They are now seeking compensation from VW for the many hours of unnecessary work caused by being supplied a faulty new part.
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is to change the other camshaft which I think they are doing now. They are not charging me for all the additional labour which is good of them, but it was them that advised me that it was worth repairing the car. However all the extra parts mean that the final bill - if they ever fix it - will be far more than the car is worth.
